If the Salafis don't voluntarily hand Makkah over to the Mahdi, how should the Mahdi gain control of the city?

There is no religious text to the effect that it is a religious duty to wait anxiously for him. Moreover, Muslims should not believe anyone claiming that he is Al-Mahdi unless there is clear evidence to that effect, as many people have claimed to be so.





Thus, Muslims are required not to hasten to believe anyone claiming to be Al-Mahdi; they are to investigate and make sure of such a thing.





There is no ruling in the Islamic Shari`ah that has to do with the emergence of Al-Mahdi. That is to say, Muslims are not to delay fulfilling religious duties like the congregational prayers or Jihad or applying penalties prescribed in Shari`ah, etc., until Al-Mahdi comes and guides them in that respect. Muslims are to lead their lives normally — worship Allah, go to work, reform their society, learn, teach, etc., and if Al-Mahdi appears and they make sure that he is truthful, they are to follow him. This was the attitude of the Companions and those who truly followed in their footsteps.';





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If the Salafis don't voluntarily hand Makkah over to the Mahdi, how should the Mahdi gain control of the city?
They are different theories of the series of events that will take place.


I believe there will be a battle, and the Mehdi will prove himself to the world through it.





Again, there are version. Don't rest your case on them.


It is a good enough to know that he will come from hiding sometime in the near future.


Inshallah we will all be around to witness.If the Salafis don't voluntarily hand Makkah over to the Mahdi, how should the Mahdi gain control of the city?
THIRD BRANCHSince the Hadiths that speak of the signs of the Last Day, the events at the end of time, and the merits and rewards of certain actions have not been well understood, some scholars who rely on their reason have pronounced some of them to be either weak or false. And some of the scholars whose belief was weak but whose egotism was strong have gone as far as denying them. For now we shall not attempt any detailed discussion, but shall only explain 'Twelve Principles'.





FIRST PRINCIPLE: This is a matter which we have explained in the question and answer at the end of the Twentieth Word. Its summary is this: Religion is an examination, a test, which distinguishes elevated spirits from base ones. It therefore speaks of matters that everyone shall see with their eyes in the future in such a way that they remain neither altogether unknown, nor self-evident so that everyone would be compelled to confirm them. They open the door to the reason but do not take the will from the hand. Because if a sign of the Last Day appeared completely self-evidently and everyone was compelled to affirm it, then a disposition like coal would remain equal to one like diamonds. The mystery of obligation and results of examination would be lost. Thus, it is because of this that there has been much dispute over many matters like that of the Mehdi and Sufyan. Also, the narrations differ greatly; they have become pronouncements which contradict one another.





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EIGHTH PRINCIPLE: In this arena of trial and realm of examination, Almighty God, the Absolutely Wise One, conceals most important things in the midst of numerous others, and that concealment is tied to many purposes, benefits, and instances of wisdom.





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Each century has to have a share of this meaning. And so that people should not heedlessly conform to evil things and the reins of the soul should not be left free in indifference, every century the fearsome individuals who come to lead strife must be shrunk from and feared. If they had been specified, the benefits of general guidance would have been lost.Now, the difference in the narrations about individuals like the Mehdi, and their meaning, is this: those who expounded Hadiths applied the text of the Hadiths to their own deductions and commentaries. For example, since the centre of power at that time was Damascus or Medina, they imagined the events connected with the Mehdi and Sufyan in places like Basra, Kufa, and Syria, which were in the region of those centres, and expounded them accordingly. Moreover, they imagined the mighty works pertaining to the collective identity or community which those individuals represent to be in their persons and expounded them in that way, so that they ascribed a form to them whereby when those extraordinary individuals appear, everyone will recognize them. However, as we said, this world is an arena of trial. The door is opened to the reason, but the will is not taken from the hand. So, when those individuals, and even the terrible Dajjal, appear, many people and himself even will not know to start with that he is the Dajjal. Rather, those individuals of the end of time will be known through the insight of the light of belief.It is narrated in a Hadith about the Dajjal, who is one of the signs of the end of time: ';His first day is like a year, his second day like a month, his third day like a week, and his fourth day like other days. When he appears the world will hear. He will travel the world in forty days.'; ...





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THE MEANING OF YOUR FOURTH QUESTION





After Jesus (Upon whom be peace) kills the Dajjal (Antichrist) at the end of time, most people will enter the true religion. But it says in some narrations: “The end of the world will not occur so long there remain on the earth those who say, Allah! Allah!” So how after most people have come to believe, will most people become unbelievers?








T h e A n s w e r : Those whose belief is weak deem it unlikely that what is narrated in a sound Hadith, “Jesus (Upon whom be peace) will come, he will act in accordance with the Shari’a of Islam, and he will kill the Dajjal,” will come about. But if the reality of this is explained, no reason remains to deem it unlikely. it is as follows:





The meaning expressed by this Hadith and those about the Sufyan and the Mehdi, is this: at the end of time two currents of irreligion will gain strength.





One of them: Under the veil of duplicity, a fearsome individual named the Sufyan, who will deny the prophethood of Muhammed (PBUH), will come to lead the dissemblers, and will try to destroy the Islamic Shari’a. To oppose him, a luminous individual called Muhammed Mehdi of the Family of the Prophet will come to lead the people of sainthood and perfection, who are bound to the luminous chain of the Family of the Prophet, and he will kill the current of dissemblers, which will be the collective personality of the
once some pple from yeman came and asked Omer(AS) a Q. it was an hypothetical Q. he asked the people';did this happen?'; they replied 'no' he said go back when it happens let me know i'll answer.








my answer is the same...when it happens let me know i'll try 2 answer. why do u pple *** up wid Q's that are impossible???it might happen but that's later. now there are so many other things to be done!





salam alaikum.
who said they will even be in power when the mahdi arrives? who is to say they maintain their control of makkah and madinah to that time?





and on the hand, what if the mahdi is from them? what if he is from saudi arabia?





Allah knows best
«و من یتول الله و رسوله و الذین آمنوا فان حزب الله هم الغالبون» (مائده ۶۵
They will be the first to fight him. But we will get rid of them once and for all.
Mahdi is going to ask the Jews to help him.

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